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Monday, March 9, 2009

"Proof Positive that ONLY Christians Can Have Morals and Ethics!" by Harry McCall (Debunking Christianity)

Here's some of the latest garbage coming from a Debunking Christianity contributor:

"Time and time again we atheists at DC are sternly informed that, without God, we atheists have no bases at all for morals and ethics which can ONLY come from God alone."

Harry...uh...first of fall, it's spelled "basis". More importantly, I think that if these types of comments are propping up on Loftus' blog (and there isn't much reason to doubt that they would from some commentators), they are not as direct as Loftus and the gang interpret them. Based on the article's ludicrous title, this is making an assumption of a belief held only by the most extreme of Christian fundamentalists. I don't see this sitting well with the mainstream Christian community.

Yes, most Christians believe that God alone is the source of morality. And the key word here, of course, is that God is the source, not a qualifying factor in terms of personal belief. Most Christians would also tell you that atheists can be good moral people, but that their lives are not fufilled without having some sort of connecting contact with what they consider to be "God." This does not imply that those without a God in their lives, are automatically moral people. Instead, it can be interpreted that because we are all human beings, our system of morals passed down throughout the ages has stemmed from God.

So earlier this afternoon Mr. McCall posts a news headline of a Christian minister acting "immorally." Reading this article will set the stage for humorous mockery:

Police Arrest Pastor for Allegedly Setting Fire to His Own Church

Church Previously Vandalized On Several OccasionsAnderson, SCMonday afternoon, Rev. Christopher Daniels, who is from Belton, was charged with second-degree arson. His bond was set at $25,000.The State Law Enforcement Division has joined the Anderson County Sheriff's Office in the investigation.In recent months, there have been incidents of graffiti and vandalism in the church that are still under investigation.Investigators said Blue Ridge Baptist was targeted by vandals four times at the end of 2008.In mid-December, gang symbols and hate-filled messages were left in the church's Sunday school building.Earlier that month, the same thing was done to the classrooms downstairs.Rev. Daniels is being investigated by the State Law Enforcement Division also as a suspect in the earlier vandalisms which caused over $20,000 worth of damage to the chruch.

It's funny that during these times McCall would conveniently pull up what would otherwise be a rather insignificant crime as compared to those of the recent week (forgive me for posting a link that hails from the UK but I'm rather lazy and decided to just copy and paste an article that Punkish from the TWeb forums posted in the March 2009 Screwballs thread):

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20090308/twl-minister-shot-dead-during-church-ser-3fd0ae9.html

Minister Shot Dead During Church Service

A minister has been shot dead during a church service by a gunman who then stabbed himself and two other people. The man walked down the aisle during the early morning service at the First Baptist Church in Maryville, Illinois, state police said. He exchanged words with senior pastor Dr Fred Winters, pulled out a .45 calibre handgun and shot the minister once in the chest, Master Trooper Ralph Timmins said. The gun jammed before the attacker could fire again, so he then pulled out a knife and stabbed himself...Mark Jones, a worship minister at the church added: "We have no idea what this guy's motive was. We don't know him."

Oooooooh........seems like da' moral argument backfires again! Owch, that hurts!

I bet McCall wasn't so interested in sharing this, now was he? It seems that many recent shootings have been the result of crazy people going after the ordained. And all McCall comes up with is a reverend committing arson? Somehow I don't believe that McCall is unaware of these shootings, but he would rather ignore them willingly in hopes of convincing himself they never happened. Or, he clearly lives under a rock.

At either rate, destroying your own safe-haven and then spontaneously murdering a pastor along with their church-participants would be like comparing apples and oranges. Of course, I only say that in terms of which is the heaviest on the weight scale.

22 comments:

  1. Hi Truth Be Told

    I just wanted to assure you that Jesus still loves you.

    Do you know that?

    You sound so much like that angry young man JP Holding. You know Jesus loves him too. He sure does.

    Well, by now.
    Harry

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  2. Hey, it's Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall!

    Hey Harry -- ever figure out where to find out about ancient patronage in that business dictionary yet? :D

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  3. You sound so much like that angry young man JP Holding. You know Jesus loves him too. He sure does.

    Well, by now.
    Harry


    This should serve as evidence of what Loftus refers to as "inconsistency". It seems rather hilarious that Lofty boy would expect us to not give him the time of day when, after banning me from his sites, comes on to these blogs to whine about how much he is being attacked. And then we have Harry here, who comes onto this blog to write something so idiotically sarcastic that he fails in actually achieving his true objective in mind: Revealing Truth Be Told to be a online Christian crusader in diguise! Boy, are you guys a clown circus or what?

    Never fear though, I'm not a person for censorship. Loftus may be that way, but he and his little buddies may come on here and post all they like, because I'm pro-democracy and I'm for freedom of speech. This is a blog dedicated to this principles, because you can't have the capacity to criticize without first having the freedom to do so.

    So c'mon over Loftus n' Friends! Go ahead and comment all you want, it won't affect me or anybody else but yourselves. And unlike John, that's a patented gurantee. ;)

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  4. "Bases" is also the plural form of "basis". Don't know if that is how he meant to use it though.

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  5. "Bases" is also the plural form of "basis". Don't know if that is how he meant to use it though.

    Well I probably shouldn't be too much of a grammar Nazi because my writing is certaintly rife with typos and improper use of words from time to time, so let's just say that all in all, that part is insignificant to me overall. I really could care less.

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  6. JP; Great to hear from a sore looser who blocked all my emails after I called the prison where your wife worked, got past the switchboard and got Ms. Turkel on the phone.

    I simply told her: “Is this Ms. Turkel? (She answered : “Yes”) Hi, my name is Harry McCall. Please give Bob a message from me, OK? Tell Bob I enjoy reading his Tetonic website. Goodbye.”

    I knew what would happen when she got home that night and told Bob. I knew how much Bob valued his anonymity (as if some ex-con would waste his time with him, but the boy has told so many lies he‘s running scare).

    I bet he crapped in his pants big time when his wife got home an told him I had called her!!

    Hell, the last email Bob sent me before he blocked me was:

    “I going to have you arrested and fired from your job!” But again, it was just another JP Holding lie. He did nothing but block my emails (Man, that really hurt my feelings! LOL). And you bet I laughed for days.

    You see, Brother Bob is a weird and funny, but in the end, a pathetic character who craves attention and usually has to get it by lying.

    After all, what was Brother Bob to do? Hey, we were good friends (as the many emails we had already exchanged would have proven which I had on back up).

    Now, Brother Bob is caught in another lie: “Hey, it's Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall!”

    Wow, Bother Bob you sound just like one of the Gospel editors putting words in Jesus’ mouth, but then they weren‘t eye witnesses either.

    Brother Bob, if I haven't caught you in yet another lie, why didn’t your wife press charges against me for being “Obscene“?. She is in state law enforcement. Come Bob, Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil! (But maybe you can’t because you are the devil!)

    And what about Truth Be Told? He came over to DC and said he was not a Christian:

    But in case it's neither, I'm not a Christian. You could probably Google me up and find that out for yourself. I've mentioned it a bunch of times before, both on and off Tweb.

    But when I ministered to his spiritual needs, the boy became convicted of his sins and said:

    I....don't know what to say about all of this. Hopefully Loftus approves of what you're talking about.

    I would perhaps better understand the question if I know what it was pertaining too, other than my relationship with Jesus, which is fairly nonexistent right now.


    Thanks for your confession Brother Truth Be Told. You sins are forgiven. Depart in peace.

    Finally, the Bible states that “Two can not walk to together, except they be agreed.”

    Funny thing is, when I picture JP and Truth Be Told in my mind I see Beavis & Butt-Head.

    Hey, I enjoyed the open commenting here and sure hope I’ve stuck a pin in the pig this time!

    Remember, as Christians, be Christ like! LOL!

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  7. McCall, I would just like to say that your last comment, which I'm sure is in all seriousness, made me laugh at its hilarity to such an extent that I will leave Holding to deal with you when he returns.

    Cheers,

    - TBT

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  8. I think Harry may have meant the plural of the word basis, which would indeed be bases. But it's just a typo, man.

    In the previous post you even wrote:

    "the same basic principals apply"

    Now, see, JP, how, if I were a mean person, I could point out that the word is spelled "principles"? ;-)

    I've been reading you for maybe 11 years, now, back when you'd told me that less than half a dozen people wrote you.

    You're intelligent, educated, and funny. So why shoot yourself in the foot with this petty stuff, when you can actually make some pretty interesting arguments. I know, I've seen them.

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  9. Dear Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall:

    I see you've been taking mind-altering drugs! No, HERE is how the conversation went:

    You told her: “Is this Ms. Turkel?

    She answered : “Yes”.

    You said something like: "Hi, my name is Harry McCall. Please give Bob a message from me, OK?"

    At that point, she reamed your sorry little rear end for calling unsolicited into a state correctional facility where people were at work, causing you to fumble, bumble, and stutter out:

    "Uh....ah...uh...we just want Bob to know we enjoy reading his Tetonic website."

    Then she tore you a few more new posterior holes, leaving you babbling even more.

    You say: (as if some ex-con would waste his time with him,

    Sure, just like they wasted time with Madalyn Murray O'Hair, right, Harry? :D Tell you what -- what's your address and phone number? I'll pass it out to some current and ex-cons so you can have a chat with them and have them over for lunch. With that fried-egg face of yours, you'd fit right in!

    You say: I bet he crapped in his pants big time when his wife got home an told him I had called her!!

    Nope! I congratulated her because I was proud of her for having given you such a slap. If there was anyone bringin' their underpants into the drycleaners that day, it was YOU, Dirty Harry! :D

    You say: Hell, the last email Bob sent me before he blocked me was:

    Not quite. I told you that I'd notify your employer that you were using your work address to send personal emails, and your work phone to make harrassing phone calls. I'm sure Burger King would be pleased to hear that about you, loser! :D

    You say: And you bet I laughed for days.

    I'm sure that is indeed one of the side effects of the 32 psych meds you're on right now! Imagining prior emails between us that made us "good friends" is another side effect....Harry also thinks he's the president of Libya, and that he has a green horn sticking out of his forehead!

    You say: Now, Brother Bob is caught in another lie: “Hey, it's Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall!”

    That it is! Makes a great name for you. I'd have used "Offensive, Harrassing Jackass" but that was already taken by one of your atheist friends. :D

    That said, this is just an example of how Harry is STILL a Bob Jones fundamentalist. Maybe I'll explain that after he figures out that a business dictionary isn't a place to go to learn about ancient patronage models.

    You say: Funny thing is, when I picture JP and Truth Be Told in my mind I see Beavis & Butt-Head.

    Funny, when we see you, we see Mr. Hankey from South Park!

    You say: Hey, I enjoyed the open commenting here and sure hope I’ve stuck a pin in the pig this time!

    Well, check your rear end and find out!

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  10. This makes me feel like I know so much more about apologetics already! ;-)

    C'mon kiddies, get your fingers out of each others' nostrils, and remember that there's this huge, interesting subject that you've spent many years of your lives studying.

    Do we feel like sharing, today?

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  11. That's why I have my site and books, Rat....which I spend 99.5% of my time on...

    Permit me, eh, to take a FEW seconds of my life for this? Please? :p

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  12. Hum: “Hey, it's Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall!” is now twisted into “At that point, she reamed your sorry little rear end for calling unsolicited into a state correctional facility where people were at work, causing you to fumble, bumble, and stutter out:”

    Re: You NEVER did prove anything “Obscene” with me other than your screwed up lie now make your wife the obscene one! Bob, if you were Pinocchio you could use your nose to Pole Vault with!

    Bob: Sure, just like they wasted time with Madalyn Murray O'Hair, right, Harry? :D Tell you what -- what's your address and phone number? I'll pass it out to some current and ex-cons so you can have a chat with them and have them over for lunch. With that fried-egg face of yours, you'd fit right in!

    Re: It’s in the phone book Bob, Greenville, S.C. as listed under my blogger description for all to see unlike yours. But since I have Clear ID with Anonymous Call Rejection on my home phone plank calls so threats will be hard to make without AT&T being notified.

    I guess ex-cons and Satan are out to get poor old Bob. (Not only did I get your wife’s job location and work phone number, but I’ve got more of your personal information (Birthday & home address, or the things you don’t want strangers to know).

    Bob: Not quite. I told you that I'd notify your employer that you were using your work address to send personal emails, and your work phone to make harrassing phone calls. I'm sure Burger King would be pleased to hear that about you, loser!

    Re: “…and your work phone to make harrassing phone calls…” Sorry Bob, my cell phone (with nation wide calling) is my own property (caught yet in another lie!)

    Bob: “I'm sure Burger King would be pleased to hear that about you, loser!”

    Re: At least that would be a real job! (Something you don’t have!) But I guess with a salary of a little over 18K per year beats standing on the corner holding a sign: “Will work for Food”

    Extra!, Extra!
    Holding’s Trusting the New Testament has been torpedo even before it has left port by Bart Ehrman’s mighty ship: Jesus, Interrupted: Revealing the Hidden Contradictions in the Bible (And Why We Don't Know About Them) March 2009.

    Extra Plus!!
    On his Tektonic website Holding cries like a baby who dropped his pacifier when he got his feelings hurt by a local church as shown by his bitter squalling about rejection:
    Extreme Apologetics

    Bob: You see, some months ago I offered my services, free of charge, to your fellowship as a teacher of apologetics. I did this being impressed that many Christians lack a serious foundation for what they believe, and that the continuing decline of church membership numbers might have some connection to this. (As you may have heard, every year tens of thousands of Christian college students leave Christianity and church, usually never to return.) However, I never heard from you at that time; not so much as a phone call or a polite postcard. For some time I despaired as to why this was so…I really did offer to teach there once and got no response. (Doesn’t this just bring tears to your eyes!)

    Does baby Holding need a diaper change or does Bob want Jesus to kiss his wounded ego and make it better?

    It sure looks like cry baby Holding can dish it out, but he just can’t take it!

    As far as you getting a doctorate in history, I understand you learned about it from the classified ads in the rear of the National Enquire: “Earn a PhD at Home in Your Spare Time…” of which being jobless, you have plenty of!

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  13. Harry "Obscene Phone" McCall says:

    "You NEVER did prove anything 'Obscene' with me other than your screwed up lie blah blah blah"

    Harry, as stupid as you are, ANYTHING you say qualifies as "obscene" in some sense of the word -- especially when it comes to addressing claims by credentialed scholarship, as with your magnificent patronage gaffe. :D

    Either way, you're STILL missing the point because you can't get away from thinking like a fundy.

    Harry says:

    "It’s in the phone book Bob, Greenville, S.C. as listed under my blogger description for all to see..."

    Then post it all here, Harry. Why don't you do that?

    Harry says:"but I’ve got more of your personal information (Birthday & home address, or the things you don’t want strangers to know)."

    Suuure you do, Harry. All of that can be found with even the simplest search that even a child could do. Where have you been? BTW, stuff like this and that picture of yours won't do much to get rid of that Chester the Molester image you're fighting. Or maybe that's the image you WANT, eh?

    Harry says: "Sorry Bob, my cell phone (with nation wide calling) is my own property (caught yet in another lie!)"

    Sorry, Chester, but all your excuses don't wash one bit. It's too late to cover your tracks.
    Harry says:

    "Holding’s Trusting the New Testament has been torpedo even before it has left port by Bart Ehrman’s mighty ship: Jesus, Interrupted"

    Er, vice versa, Harry. I looked at portions of JI already, and Ehrman doesn't even touch anything I say -- and my book torpedoes HIM into the ocean trenches. Too bad -- you guys lose again!

    Harry says:

    "feelings hurt by a local church as shown by his bitter squalling about rejection"

    Wrong again, Harry. That church was an emergent church, and the issue has to do with the broader problem of why lame Christians (like you used to be) are so selfish and into entertainment. It's nothing that hasn't been said by people like Michael Patton and many others before. Try to stay up to date, willya? :D

    Harry says: "Does baby Holding need a diaper change or does Bob want Jesus to kiss his wounded ego and make it better?"

    Aww. Does Harry want his arguments removed from his diaper, too?

    Harry says:

    "As far as you getting a doctorate in history, I understand you learned about it from the classified ads in the rear of the National Enquire:"

    I'll be sure and let the University of FL know you think so highly of their academic program, Harry! Of course, we know how much you respect academia, what with your degree from Tiny Tots Daycare and all.

    Get an answer from that business dictionary yet?

    Didn't think so.

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  14. One more fun note for Dirty Harry, and anyone else who thinks Ehrman's "Jesus Interrupted" is a big deal....

    One reason I know it does not touch anything I write in my book is THIS:

    http://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-Historical-Introduction-Christian/dp/0195322592/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236883850&sr=1-2

    Here's a hint:

    "Misquoting Jesus" is just a popular, watered-down version of "The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture."

    In the same way, "Jesus Interrupted" is just a popular, watered-down version of Ehrman's book linked above...which I read for my research...

    Oops.

    Sorry, Harry. You lose again. :)

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  15. “I going to have you arrested and fired from your job!” But again, it was just another JP Holding lie. He did nothing but block my emails (Man, that really hurt my feelings! LOL). And you bet I laughed for days.

    Greetings once again Mr. McCall.

    Do you know why you share the same exact first name of one of the title characters in the 1994 film Dumb & Dumber?

    Well, if you can't figure that one out for yourself, then there's no reason to waste your brain wattage on it. Anyways, perhaps you would like to know that Holding could possibly be the one laughing because you are publically admitting to illegal behaviors on your end of things? Hmmmm?

    You see, Brother Bob is a weird and funny, but in the end, a pathetic character who craves attention and usually has to get it by lying.

    I think you get attention by sharing your bragging rights with the world over something that's just plain unwarranted for any individual in the world to do and something that could get you possibly imprisoned. Yet, you seem to be emotionally heightened by the odds stacked against you. I wonder why...

    I guess ex-cons and Satan are out to get poor old Bob. (Not only did I get your wife’s job location and work phone number, but I’ve got more of your personal information (Birthday & home address, or the things you don’t want strangers to know).

    See...that's the type of information you NEVER give out even if you are the culprit, and especially not on the internet. You would have to be a complete idiot to write what you just did Harry ma' Boi, and now you could end up being the one to suffer the consequences.

    I believe most things related to what you admit to have done those five years ago are still illegal and can therefore still be punishable by law regardless of how long ago the event itself occured. You should probably go check out the folks at DC about your latest talk, because they are not shaking their heads in approval.

    I'm not going to make any hasty assumptions but there can only be so many possibilities to why you would mindlessley post this information to the worldwide web and act if it's practically nothing: You are either completely stupid or completely insane. With that grin on your face, I'd say you might just be crazy, but a third alternative is that you might also be an incorporation of both.

    Cheers once again friend,

    - TBT

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  16. Truth Be Told:

    Unlike your Bogger information, mine is posted where everyone and anyone can see it. Unlike JP, I'm not worried...I have a clean conscious.

    So, if you (or anyone else) on the WWWeb wants to file civil charges against me, have at it.

    If you (or anyone else want) to get a Federal Judge to file criminal charges against me, I suggest you look under Federal Government in the Blue Pages in the phone book.

    You will need to prove damages in a civil case with ¾ of the Burden of Proof being against the one filing the charges.

    But if you want have the legal system file criminal charges against me, I suggest you get advice from the Florida Attorney General as to my violation of either State or Federal laws.

    In the last 10 years I have been sued in Civil Court 3 times:

    A. I had 38 neighbors in my lake house neighborhood file a Class Action law suite against me. After 5 times in court, they lost! Here’s the court case # 2004-CP-37-162 in Oconee County, SC.

    B. I was sued by Duke Energy Corporation for trespassing on their property, plus $70,000 in attorney fees. After 5 years and 6 times in court; they lost their case.

    C. I was sued by Crescent Resources for Breach of Contract: They lost.

    On the other hand, I sued a major corporation for damages. They lost and I won a finical settlement.

    Truth Be Told, you sound as if you have never had to defend yourself in court; that you are young and inexperienced in both civil and criminal law.

    But, if you or JP feel that you have either a civil or a criminal case against either my verbal or physical actions, I would suggest you contact and an attorney in the case of the former and your state’s solicitor in the case of the latter. (You will have to pay the civil attorney per hour for his/her's time, plus $400+ per hour court time should you make it to court).

    However, if you can get the Attorney General to file criminal charges against me, it will not cost you anything until I counter sue you with a civil case.

    We can continue calling each other names and making accusation on your new blog or you can get down to business and back up your what you think you beleive the law states as in your last comment.

    Regards,

    HM

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  17. "Law suite"??

    "Clean conscious"???

    Sounds like the reason Harry won is because they finally realized it was fruitless to try to get any serious money out of an illiterate bumpkin.

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  18. Truth Be Told, you sound as if you have never had to defend yourself in court; that you are young and inexperienced in both civil and criminal law.

    You're right, I haven't. But I'm not stupid enough to go bragging about something that could be potentially illegal. Dumbass.

    All of those court cases you admit too are proof that you are a self-acknowledged violator of the law, and you are one hell of a screw up at keeping your nose out of legal boundaries. Thanks again for proving my point that John n' Friends probably have some of the worst morals out of any atheist network on the internet, save the Retard Response Squad.

    You have a nice day you rational rationalist you!

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  19. JP: "Law suite"??

    "Clean conscious"???

    Sounds like the reason Harry won is because they finally realized it was fruitless to try to get any serious money out of an illiterate bumpkin.

    Re: So, JP where is the proof. The court says I’m clean. Thus, I post private information, again, unlike you!

    Hey, at least attach a picture to you booger ID like I do. (Oh, that’s right! I don’t have imaginary ex-cons after me!)

    And Truth Be Told: Go tell mommy she wants you! (Time for a bath and bedy-by.)

    If they took your brain and rolled it up into a tiny-weenie little round ball and then stuffed it into a mosquitoes’ belly; it would sound like a BB rolling around inside a boxcar!

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  20. TBT: You're right, I haven't. But I'm not stupid enough to go bragging about something that could be potentially illegal. Dumbass.

    All of those court cases you admit too are proof that you are a self-acknowledged violator of the law, and you are one hell of a screw up at keeping your nose out of legal boundaries.

    Re: Hey, just like Jesus with the Jewish and Roman authorities! (Only, notice the pun: “He got nailed for it.”)

    As a final note on this post; it’s extremely reveling that I can post, for the entire world to see, so much of my private information. Yet you, Truth Be Told, hind behind an anonymous name so scared to reveal any truth about yourself.

    Well, at least I know JP is and adult, but I’ll end my discussion with you here least I get arrested by child molestation.

    When Truth Be Told can tell the truth about who it is and where it lives; ironically I’m just beating a dead horse with a so call person who demands proofs as “truth”, but is to scared to give any information about itself (I’m not even sure if you have nuts or a pussy. Or maybe you are simply a scared little “pussy” hiding behind an fake name!)

    Hell, you just might be one of those ex-cons JP warns about posting as a child!

    Anyway, child molestation is one charge I don’t need so good ridance!

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  21. Re: Hey, just like Jesus with the Jewish and Roman authorities! (Only, notice the pun: “He got nailed for it.”)

    So, Harry, I imagine you know why Hitler really killed himself don't you?

    He saw his gas bill.

    See how offensive I can be? It's impressive isn't it, trying to grab at someone else's goat with a not-so-funny pun.

    I thought I'd just throw that out there for the "effect". It's so brilliant and funny, hahahahaha....

    How goes the agenda thar, Hairball?

    As a final note on this post; it’s extremely reveling that I can post, for the entire world to see, so much of my private information. Yet you, Truth Be Told, hind behind an anonymous name so scared to reveal any truth about yourself.

    Well you've certaintly posted allot of information about yourself. Let's see "Electronic Tech, Lives in Greensville South Carolina of the USA, aged 58, astrological sign is Aqaurius and zodiac is Bunny Wabbit."

    Why would I want to give out my physical address, real name, and etc on the web you retarded senile ol' bastard? Oh wait, I know, that's so you can try to get a hold of me and my relatives and involve us with your creepiness. Screw you.

    Well, at least I know JP is and adult, but I’ll end my discussion with you here least I get arrested by child molestation.

    Come to think of it McCall you might be giving me some thought about what to prohibit as far as comments go on this blog. Creepiness like yours pushes the limits, and I think you just expect us to rollover and play dead for you. That won't be happening.

    When Truth Be Told can tell the truth about who it is and where it lives; ironically I’m just beating a dead horse with a so call person who demands proofs as “truth”, but is to scared to give any information about itself (I’m not even sure if you have nuts or a pussy.

    So you have finally resorted to cheap crudeness in order to communicate your points across. Man, that higher standard you DC boys claim to adhere too sure isn't working out for you guys, is it? Give me a break, you guys need your eyelids propped open with a crowbar you're such a ridculous circus. All this proves is that you're a creep whose interested in someone's "personal information" for your own gratification. I don't think I would like to post my information just so you can access it and then try to do something with it by using it to achieve your own sick objectives. I think Holding is being rather merciful to you right now by not reporting any of this, and letting you off the hook. Next time someone gives me shit for having a low-life blog, I'll be happy to use your pedophiliac comments as a reference to the wonderful staff of Debunking Christianity.

    So Harefluff, how many stripper undies have you sniffed lately?

    Or maybe you are simply a scared little “pussy” hiding behind an fake name!

    You realize that I'm going to quote you saying this next time DJ tries to pull the "ad-hominen" card don't you?

    Sheesh you're stupid. How do you ever got John to put up with something like you who behaves like this? I think you're proof Loftydofty has double standards when it comes to communication. Had you been a Christian, you're ass would have been tossed a long time ago. So thanks.

    Hell, you just might be one of those ex-cons JP warns about posting as a child!

    Yeah, Harry...of course. I'm going around Blogger asking for people's personal info so I can look them up on "Ask Jeeves" and try to meet with them in a person. The handy dandy travel supplies I carry are a crowbar, baseball bat, duck tape, sleeping pills, chlorine, and a magnum rifle in case those pesky coppers catch up to me. So what's the story of your life?

    Anyway, child molestation is one charge I don’t need so good ridance!

    Molestation would seem to be your trade. You've certaintly got the appeal of a pedophile: Large, geeky glasses, wide eye-irises, and a creepy smile of sexually deviant fixations. Are you sure you're not into having sexual intercourse with dead corpses? You seem perfectly capable enough of pulling that shit off...

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